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[smf_addin] Digest Number 2968

15 New Messages

Digest #2968
2.1
Re: Want to Make Dividend Histogram by "Kermit W. Prather" kermitpra
2.2
Re: Want to Make Dividend Histogram by "Marc ." whichwaytobeach
2.3
Re: Want to Make Dividend Histogram by "Kermit W. Prather" kermitpra
2.4
Re: Want to Make Dividend Histogram by "Marc ." whichwaytobeach
2.5
Re: Want to Make Dividend Histogram by "Randy Harmelink" rharmelink
2.6
Re: Want to Make Dividend Histogram by "Marc ." whichwaytobeach
3a
Yahoo Advancers / Decliners by donald_brown_48367
3b
Re: Yahoo Advancers / Decliners by "Randy Harmelink" rharmelink
4a
Why Don't Any Files Work? by whichwaytobeach
4b
Re: Why Don't Any Files Work? by "Randy Harmelink" rharmelink
5a
Chart Prices Source? by "Matthew Glaser" Smart_Dude_99
5c
Re: Chart Prices Source? by "Randy Harmelink" rharmelink

Messages

Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:25 am (PST) . Posted by:

rho49m

Thank you- this plugin works a charm and your support is impeccable.

Sat Feb 15, 2014 6:48 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Kermit W. Prather" kermitpra

Marc, is it possible for you to unload it to the Uploads by forum members
folder?

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/smf_addin/files/Uploads%20by%20forum%20m
embers/

Thanks,
Kermit

From: smf_addin@yahoogroups.com [mailto:smf_addin@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Marc .
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 8:22 PM
To: smf_addin@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [smf_addin] RE: Want to Make Dividend Histogram


Hello Elder,

If you would like to see the last 10 years of annual dividends, both as
numbers and also a Histogram, I can send you the Excel piece that should
work for you. Two things: Make sure you have Randy's SMF add-in, "added-in"
to your Excel, and, tell me what cell letter & number (e.g. C3) you input
the ticker symbol.

Regards,

Marc
_____

To: smf_addin@yahoogroups.com
From: rharmelink@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 11:31:39 -0700
Subject: Re: [smf_addin] RE: Want to Make Dividend Histogram

Comparing between what and what?

On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 10:30 AM, <elderbands@aol.com> wrote:

Hi: I'm Elder and I'm an investor but I'm not great with the computer. How
would I get on to see comparisons for dividends .What is the website?
Thank you,
elderbands@aol.com




Sat Feb 15, 2014 6:55 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Marc ." whichwaytobeach

Hello Kermit,
That is where the file is. :)
Regards,
Marc

To: smf_addin@yahoogroups.com
From: kermitp@tampabay.rr.com
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 09:48:24 -0500
Subject: RE: [smf_addin] RE: Want to Make Dividend Histogram

Marc, is it possible for you to unload it to the Uploads by forum members folder? https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/smf_addin/files/Uploads%20by%20forum%20members/ Thanks,Kermit From: smf_addin@yahoogroups.com [mailto:smf_addin@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marc .
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 8:22 PM
To: smf_addin@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [smf_addin] RE: Want to Make Dividend Histogram

Hello Elder, If you would like to see the last 10 years of annual dividends, both as numbers and also a Histogram, I can send you the Excel piece that should work for you. Two things: Make sure you have Randy's SMF add-in, "added-in" to your Excel, and, tell me what cell letter & number (e.g. C3) you input the ticker symbol. Regards, MarcTo: smf_addin@yahoogroups.com
From: rharmelink@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 11:31:39 -0700
Subject: Re: [smf_addin] RE: Want to Make Dividend Histogram

Comparing between what and what? On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 10:30 AM, <elderbands@aol.com> wrote: Hi: I'm Elder and I'm an investor but I'm not great with the computer. How would I get on to see comparisons for dividends .What is the website?Thank you, elderbands@aol.com

Sat Feb 15, 2014 7:48 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Kermit W. Prather" kermitpra

Thanks, Marc

I downloaded and tested the spreadsheet. Several of my High Yield stock show
as error (AGNC,AINV). Apparently, ADvFN does not support those stock.

I, also, noticed what I think is an error in your labeling.


FY1
0.63
=RCHGetElementNumber($C$4,5905)
5905 is defined as - Annual Income Statement -- Diluted EPS -- Dividends
Paid per Share -- FY10

FY2
0.70



FY3
0.78



FY4
1.10



FY5
1.50



FY6
1.90



FY7
2.15



FY8
2.50



FY9
2.90



FY10
3.30





5896
S
AdvFN-A
Annual Income Statement -- Diluted EPS -- Dividends Paid per Share -- FY1

5897
S
AdvFN-A
Annual Income Statement -- Diluted EPS -- Dividends Paid per Share -- FY2

5898
S
AdvFN-A
Annual Income Statement -- Diluted EPS -- Dividends Paid per Share -- FY3

5899
S
AdvFN-A
Annual Income Statement -- Diluted EPS -- Dividends Paid per Share -- FY4

5900
S
AdvFN-A
Annual Income Statement -- Diluted EPS -- Dividends Paid per Share -- FY5

5901
S
AdvFN-A
Annual Income Statement -- Diluted EPS -- Dividends Paid per Share -- FY6

5902
S
AdvFN-A
Annual Income Statement -- Diluted EPS -- Dividends Paid per Share -- FY7

5903
S
AdvFN-A
Annual Income Statement -- Diluted EPS -- Dividends Paid per Share -- FY8

5904
S
AdvFN-A
Annual Income Statement -- Diluted EPS -- Dividends Paid per Share -- FY9

5905
S
AdvFN-A
Annual Income Statement -- Diluted EPS -- Dividends Paid per Share -- FY10



From: smf_addin@yahoogroups.com [mailto:smf_addin@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Marc .
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 9:55 AM
To: smf_addin@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [smf_addin] RE: Want to Make Dividend Histogram


Hello Kermit,

That is where the file is. :)

Regards,

Marc
_____

To: smf_addin@yahoogroups.com
From: kermitp@tampabay.rr.com
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 09:48:24 -0500
Subject: RE: [smf_addin] RE: Want to Make Dividend Histogram

Marc, is it possible for you to unload it to the Uploads by forum members
folder?

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/smf_addin/files/Uploads%20by%20forum%20m
embers/

Thanks,
Kermit

From: smf_addin@yahoogroups.com [mailto:smf_addin@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Marc .
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 8:22 PM
To: smf_addin@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [smf_addin] RE: Want to Make Dividend Histogram


Hello Elder,

If you would like to see the last 10 years of annual dividends, both as
numbers and also a Histogram, I can send you the Excel piece that should
work for you. Two things: Make sure you have Randy's SMF add-in, "added-in"
to your Excel, and, tell me what cell letter & number (e.g. C3) you input
the ticker symbol.

Regards,

Marc
_____

To: smf_addin@yahoogroups.com
From: rharmelink@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 11:31:39 -0700
Subject: Re: [smf_addin] RE: Want to Make Dividend Histogram

Comparing between what and what?

On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 10:30 AM, <elderbands@aol.com> wrote:

Hi: I'm Elder and I'm an investor but I'm not great with the computer. How
would I get on to see comparisons for dividends .What is the website?
Thank you,
elderbands@aol.com




Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:19 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Marc ." whichwaytobeach

Hello Kermit,
I did the FY1-FY10 backwards to make the chart correct. And, it depends on how you look at it. If you look at FY1 as the first year of the 10 year dividend trend, and FY10 as the 10th (or latest), then it is correct. Also, you can see if the spreadsheet and graph are correct by checking against this site:
http://financials.morningstar.com/ratios/r.html?t=JNJ
And, yes, you are right, apparently some stocks don't show up. I get frustrated with this, but, it is what it is...
Regards,
Marc

To: smf_addin@yahoogroups.com
From: kermitp@tampabay.rr.com
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 10:48:23 -0500
Subject: RE: [smf_addin] RE: Want to Make Dividend Histogram

Thanks, Marc I downloaded and tested the spreadsheet. Several of my High Yield stock show as error (AGNC,AINV). Apparently, ADvFN does not support those stock. I, also, noticed what I think is an error in your labeling. FY10.63 =RCHGetElementNumber($C$4,5905)5905 is defined as - Annual Income Statement -- Diluted EPS -- Dividends Paid per Share -- FY10FY20.70 FY30.78 FY41.10 FY51.50 FY61.90 FY72.15 FY82.50 FY92.90 FY103.30 5896SAdvFN-AAnnual Income Statement -- Diluted EPS -- Dividends Paid per Share -- FY15897SAdvFN-AAnnual Income Statement -- Diluted EPS -- Dividends Paid per Share -- FY25898SAdvFN-AAnnual Income Statement -- Diluted EPS -- Dividends Paid per Share -- FY35899SAdvFN-AAnnual Income Statement -- Diluted EPS -- Dividends Paid per Share -- FY45900SAdvFN-AAnnual Income Statement -- Diluted EPS -- Dividends Paid per Share -- FY55901SAdvFN-AAnnual Income Statement -- Diluted EPS -- Dividends Paid per Share -- FY65902SAdvFN-AAnnual Income Statement -- Diluted EPS -- Dividends Paid per Share -- FY75903SAdvFN-AAnnual Income Statement -- Diluted EPS -- Dividends Paid per Share -- FY85904SAdvFN-AAnnual Income Statement -- Diluted EPS -- Dividends Paid per Share -- FY95905SAdvFN-AAnnual Income Statement -- Diluted EPS -- Dividends Paid per Share -- FY10 From: smf_addin@yahoogroups.com [mailto:smf_addin@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marc .
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 9:55 AM
To: smf_addin@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [smf_addin] RE: Want to Make Dividend Histogram

Hello Kermit, That is where the file is. :) Regards, MarcTo: smf_addin@yahoogroups.com
From: kermitp@tampabay.rr.com
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 09:48:24 -0500
Subject: RE: [smf_addin] RE: Want to Make Dividend Histogram

Marc, is it possible for you to unload it to the Uploads by forum members folder? https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/smf_addin/files/Uploads%20by%20forum%20members/ Thanks,Kermit From: smf_addin@yahoogroups.com [mailto:smf_addin@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marc .
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 8:22 PM
To: smf_addin@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [smf_addin] RE: Want to Make Dividend Histogram

Hello Elder, If you would like to see the last 10 years of annual dividends, both as numbers and also a Histogram, I can send you the Excel piece that should work for you. Two things: Make sure you have Randy's SMF add-in, "added-in" to your Excel, and, tell me what cell letter & number (e.g. C3) you input the ticker symbol. Regards, MarcTo: smf_addin@yahoogroups.com
From: rharmelink@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 11:31:39 -0700
Subject: Re: [smf_addin] RE: Want to Make Dividend Histogram

Comparing between what and what? On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 10:30 AM, <elderbands@aol.com> wrote: Hi: I'm Elder and I'm an investor but I'm not great with the computer. How would I get on to see comparisons for dividends .What is the website?Thank you, elderbands@aol.com

Sat Feb 15, 2014 12:15 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Randy Harmelink" rharmelink

Actually, the problem is inconsistent labeling by AdvFN. The add-in
searches for a line item label of "Dividends Paid Per Share (DPS)", but
AGNC has a line item label of "Dividends Paid Per Share" (No DPS on it).
That's why the error occurs.

An alternative method would be to use the smfGetAdvFNElement() function.
Then, more than 10 years of data could also be retrieved. For example:

=smfGetAdvFNElement("MMM","A",1,">Dividends Paid Per Share")

For "MMM", this allowed me to grab 20 years of data, by varying the 1 from
1 to 20. But AGNC only had 5 years of history available.

On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Kermit W. Prather
<kermitp@tampabay.rr.com>wrote:

>
> I downloaded and tested the spreadsheet. Several of my High Yield stock
> show as error (AGNC,AINV). Apparently, ADvFN does not support those stock.
>

Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:27 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Marc ." whichwaytobeach

Thanks, Randy. That works fine on my end, too. What does the "A" mean? Is it the top of the table for AdvFN?
Regards,
Marc

To: smf_addin@yahoogroups.com
From: rharmelink@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 13:15:11 -0700
Subject: Re: [smf_addin] RE: Want to Make Dividend Histogram

Actually, the problem is inconsistent labeling by AdvFN. The add-in searches for a line item label of "Dividends Paid Per Share (DPS)", but AGNC has a line item label of "Dividends Paid Per Share" (No DPS on it). That's why the error occurs.

An alternative method would be to use the smfGetAdvFNElement() function. Then, more than 10 years of data could also be retrieved. For example:

=smfGetAdvFNElement("MMM","A",1,">Dividends Paid Per Share")

For "MMM", this allowed me to grab 20 years of data, by varying the 1 from 1 to 20. But AGNC only had 5 years of history available.

On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Kermit W. Prather <kermitp@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

I downloaded and tested the spreadsheet. Several of my High Yield stock show as error (AGNC,AINV). Apparently, ADvFN does not support those stock.

Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:32 pm (PST) . Posted by:

mikemcq802

A=Annual as opposed to Q=Quarterly.
Do you realize there is documentation for these things?
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/smf_addin/files https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/smf_addin/files

Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:18 am (PST) . Posted by:

donald_brown_48367

Hi Randy,
I can not download the market data on the number of advancing / declining issues from Yahoo anymore. The yahoo market data page with the advancing / declining issues seems to look different than I remember. The data appears at the bottom of the page (whereas I seem to remember is was all on it's own page before). http://finance.yahoo.com/stock-center/ http://finance.yahoo.com/stock-center/

I am wondering if this is the reason that it is not working or I have some other problem. The excel macro I use also downloads the historical prices from yahoo. That part is still working fine. Any ideas? Thanks for your help as always.
Regards,
Don

Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:53 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Randy Harmelink" rharmelink

Yahoo did indeed change the Market Statistics web page. Not only did they
change the web page address and structure, but the data now has to be
extracted out of JavaScript code, instead of a normal HTML table.

I just uploaded a new smf-elements-2.txt file to the "Works in Progress"
folder of the FILES area of the group, updating the element definitions for
elements #13822 thru #13861.

Best practice:

1. Exit EXCEL
2. Download the new version of the element definition file
3. Replace the older version of this file in your add-in's file folder
with the newer downloaded version
4. Restart EXCEL

On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 9:18 AM, <donald_brown_48367@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I can not download the market data on the number of advancing /
> declining issues from Yahoo anymore. The yahoo market data page with the
> advancing / declining issues seems to look different than I remember. The
> data appears at the bottom of the page (whereas I seem to remember is was
> all on it's own page before). http://finance.yahoo.com/stock-center/
>
> I am wondering if this is the reason that it is not working or I have some
> other problem. The excel macro I use also downloads the historical prices
> from yahoo. That part is still working fine. Any ideas? Thanks for your
> help as always.
>

Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:21 am (PST) . Posted by:

whichwaytobeach

Hello Folks,

For some odd reason, whatever file I download from the FILES folder, it ends up not working for me. It will say links cannot be updated, and the spreadsheet then turns to question marks, etc. Frustrating, because I just noticed that there are some neat spreadsheets in there that I want to cut & paste into my work...


Is there a way to fix this?


Regards,


Marc




Sat Feb 15, 2014 12:17 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Randy Harmelink" rharmelink

See the "Location Errors" item in the LINKS area of the group.

Also, there is now an smfFixLinks macro that is part of the add-in, which
can automate the "Find and Replace" process mentioned in the "Location
Errors" item. I use it frequently when EXCEL can't resolve the add-in
links. I have that macro assigned to a toolbar button, so it's easily
accessible.

On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 9:21 AM, <WHICHWAYTOBEACH@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> For some odd reason, whatever file I download from the FILES folder, it
> ends up not working for me. It will say links cannot be updated, and the
> spreadsheet then turns to question marks, etc. Frustrating, because I just
> noticed that there are some neat spreadsheets in there that I want to cut &
> paste into my work...
>
> Is there a way to fix this?
>
>

Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:27 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Matthew Glaser" Smart_Dude_99

Does anyone know what source data yahoo uses for their stock charts?

Yahoo does not seem to be using historical close prices nor are they using historical Adjusted close prices for their charts. For example, if you look at PCG on July 1, 1980, the data looks like this:

Date,Open,High,Low,Close,Volume,Adj Close
1980-07-01,5.28,5.34,5.26,5.34,84600,0.04

However, on the interactive chart, Yahoo shows this price on July 1, 1980:
2.6695

What is going on?

Thanks,
Matt

Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:44 am (PST) . Posted by:

mikemcq802

I can't explain the oddity with PCG.
Generally, Yahoo's historical adjusted price is used for stocks but the UNadjusted (raw) close is used for some tickers (many bond funds, for example). They don't identify this in the charts. At one time, their SMAs (and probably other metrics) for stocks were calculated with the raw close even though the chart was showing the adjusted closing prices (argh). Not sure if this is still an issue. I no longer use them for long-term charts preferring instead to grab their historical raw prices with SMF and chart them myself (adjusting for splits).

Sat Feb 15, 2014 12:24 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Randy Harmelink" rharmelink

At the bottom of the chart page in Yahoo, it says:

"Historical chart data and daily updates provided by Commodity Systems,
Inc. (CSI)."

But I have noticed their charts are not always consistent with the adjusted
historical quotes they provide. In the case of PCG, they seem to have
adjusted for the single 2-for-1 split, but not for dividends.

On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Matthew Glaser <smart_dude_99@yahoo.com>wrote:

>
> Does anyone know what source data yahoo uses for their stock charts?
>
> Yahoo does not seem to be using historical close prices nor are they using
> historical Adjusted close prices for their charts. For example, if you look
> at PCG on July 1, 1980, the data looks like this:
>
> Date,Open,High,Low,Close,Volume,Adj Close
> 1980-07-01,5.28,5.34,5.26,5.34,84600,0.04
>
> However, on the interactive chart, Yahoo shows this price on July 1, 1980:
> 2.6695
>
> What is going on?
>

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