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[smf_addin] Digest Number 4107

5 Messages

Digest #4107

Messages

Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:01 am (PDT) . Posted by:

summit15

Randy, I've been away for a couple of months and am using the files from late April. I am only using the

smfgetyahoohistory



function. Saw that you have updated several times and about to update my files. I used to use RCH.


Q: should I still be using SMF instead of RCH and has it gotten any faster? My spreadsheets went from calculating in 10 seconds to two minutes.


As always, you're awesome.


Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:44 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Randy Harmelink" rharmelink

The new norm for Yahoo is that the historical quotes requests are taking
about 5-10 times longer than before. For me, they now average just over a
second each. So 10 seconds to 120 seconds seems a bit high to me, but not
that far out of range...

I always use the smfGetYahooHistory() function, because
RCHGetYahooHistory() just calls it anyway.

On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 5:01 AM, summit15@
​...
wrote:

>
> Randy, I've been away for a couple of months and am using the files from
> late April. I am only using the
>
> smfgetyahoohistory
>
> function. Saw that you have updated several times and about to update my
> files. I used to use RCH.
>
> Q: should I still be using SMF instead of RCH and has it gotten any
> faster? My spreadsheets went from calculating in 10 seconds to two minutes.
>
> As always, you're awesome.
>

Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:45 am (PDT) . Posted by:

friedman_steve

In the last couple of months with all the Yahoo changes, more frequently I'm finding my sheet not updating. Sometimes running the SMFForceRecalcuation macro solves my problem, but not always. Other times I have to exit excel and re-enter..... or sometimes it just starts working the next day (frequently Yahoo related).
I also sometimes find if I need to run for lots of tickers, I'll run for many of them, run the macro, then do more, than the macro........


Is there any other macro or step I can build into macro that may work more regularly than the SMFForceRecalculation?


Thank in advance for any suggestions Randy. Many many thanks.


Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:49 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Randy Harmelink" rharmelink

smfForceRecalculation resets everything, so there would be no reason to run
it incrementally. The add-in extracts data from saved copies of web pages.
The macro purges all of those saved web pages, forcing the add-in to
retrieve new copies and extract the data from those fresh copies.

Exiting and restarting would also purge all of those saved web pages as
well, because the VBA environment is initialized when EXCEL starts up.

Having said that, EXCEL and the add-in use Microsoft routines to access the
Internet, the same ones used by Internet Explorer, so IE settings, cookies,
and temporary files apply. It could be your Internet Options aren't set to
always get fresh copies of web pages, so cached pages in the temporary
files are being used.

On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 10:45 AM, friedman_steve@
​...
wrote:

> In the last couple of months with all the Yahoo changes, more frequently
> I'm finding my sheet not updating. Sometimes running the
> SMFForceRecalcuation macro solves my problem, but not always. Other times
> I have to exit excel and re-enter..... or sometimes it just starts working
> the next day (frequently Yahoo related).
>
> I also sometimes find if I need to run for lots of tickers, I'll run for
> many of them, run the macro, then do more, than the macro........
>
> Is there any other macro or step I can build into macro that may work more
> regularly than the SMFForceRecalculation?
>
> Thank in advance for any suggestions Randy. Many many thanks.
>
>
>

Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:51 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Lew Glenn" lewglenn

Should go very quickly.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 29, 2017, at 3:57 PM, bob_15861586@yahoo.com [smf_addin] <smf_addin@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> If I want to update to he latest version of SMF, will the following procedure work?
>
> 1) Download the latest version of SMF
>
> 2) Extract the files into the directory "SMF Add-In"
>
> 3) Start Excel again.
>
>
>
> It seems very simple but some how, I am thinking to update SMF is going to be a several our job. I am hoping that somebody could comment.
>
>
>
> Bob
>
>
>
>
>
>
For the Add-in, Documentation, Templates, Tips and FAQs, visit http://ogres-crypt.com/SMF
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[belajar-excel] Digest Number 4255

15 Messages

Digest #4255
1a
Re: Look Up Nilai Yang Tidak Unik [1 Attachment] by "hendrik karnadi" hendrikkarnadi
1b
3a
Re: Kode Berhenti by "nangagus"

Messages

Sun Jul 30, 2017 7:46 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"hendrik karnadi" hendrikkarnadi

Sambil menunggu jawaban Mr. Kid, sila coba UDF nya pak Anton (salah satu bang Momod juga).
Copas UDF di bawah ini pada module di VBE Sheet,
Function vlookupgab(x As Range, y As Range, z As String) As String
'anton suryadi 1/Des/2010 
For Each a In x
    If a.Text = y.Text Then
    b = b & a.Offset(, 1).Text & z
    End If
Next
vlookupgab = Left(b, Len(b) - 1) End Function

dan ketik UDF di bawah ini,

=vlookupgab($A$3:$A$9,D3,",") pada Range E3, kemudian copy ke bawah.

Salam,HK

On Sunday, July 30, 2017, 9:38:56 PM GMT+7, Zerlinda Seismica seismica@yahoo.com [belajar-excel] <belajar-excel@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Assalamualaikum wrwb
Bapak dan ibu wabil khusus Mr Kid hehe...menurut asumsi saya fungsi look hanya untuk cari data yang unik.Sementara cari data yang ga unik apa ada sintaknya ya...Seperti biasa akan lebih jelas kalau bapak ibu bisa cek dulu lampiran saya...
Salam hormat buat bapak ibu
Wassalam
Seismica

Sun Jul 30, 2017 7:47 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"hendrik karnadi" hendrikkarnadi

Jangan lupa aktifkan Macronya.....

----- Forwarded Message -----From: hendrik karnadi hendrikkarnadi@yahoo.com [belajar-excel] <belajar-excel@yahoogroups.com>To: Zerlinda Seismica seismica@yahoo.com [belajar-excel] <belajar-excel@yahoogroups.com>Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017, 9:46:51 AM GMT+7Subject: Re: [belajar-excel] Look Up Nilai Yang Tidak Unik
 

Sambil menunggu jawaban Mr. Kid, sila coba UDF nya pak Anton (salah satu bang Momod juga).
Copas UDF di bawah ini pada module di VBE Sheet,
Function vlookupgab(x As Range, y As Range, z As String) As String
'anton suryadi 1/Des/2010 
For Each a In x
    If a.Text = y.Text Then
    b = b & a.Offset(, 1).Text & z
    End If
Next
vlookupgab = Left(b, Len(b) - 1) End Function

dan ketik UDF di bawah ini,

=vlookupgab($A$3:$A$9,D3,",") pada Range E3, kemudian copy ke bawah.

Salam,HK

On Sunday, July 30, 2017, 9:38:56 PM GMT+7, Zerlinda Seismica seismica@yahoo.com [belajar-excel] <belajar-excel@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Assalamualaikum wrwb
Bapak dan ibu wabil khusus Mr Kid hehe...menurut asumsi saya fungsi look hanya untuk cari data yang unik.Sementara cari data yang ga unik apa ada sintaknya ya...Seperti biasa akan lebih jelas kalau bapak ibu bisa cek dulu lampiran saya...
Salam hormat buat bapak ibu
Wassalam
Seismica

Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:13 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"nangagus"

Walaikumsalam warahmatullah.

Bisa juga pakai formula:
=IF(COUNTIF($A$3:$A$9;D3)>3;INDEX($B$1:$B$9;LARGE(INDEX(ROW($A$3:$A$9)*($A$3:$A$9=D3);;);4))&",";"")&IF(COUNTIF($A$3:$A$9;D3)>2;INDEX($B$1:$B$9;LARGE(INDEX(ROW($A$3:$A$9)*($A$3:$A$9=D3);;);3))&",";"")&IF(COUNTIF($A$3:$A$9;D3)>1;INDEX($B$1:$B$9;LARGE(INDEX(ROW($A$3:$A$9)*($A$3:$A$9=D3);;);2))&",";"")&INDEX($B$1:$B$9;LARGE(INDEX(ROW($A$3:$A$9)*($A$3:$A$9=D3);;);1))

Tapi sayang, Formula hanya untuk 4 data! jika lebih dari 4 data akan
lebih panjang lagi

SAlam

NangAgus

On 7/30/2017 7:56 PM, Zerlinda Seismica seismica@yahoo.com
[belajar-excel] wrote:
> Assalamualaikum wrwb
>
> Bapak dan ibu wabil khusus Mr Kid hehe...menurut asumsi saya fungsi
> look hanya untuk cari data yang unik.
> Sementara cari data yang ga unik apa ada sintaknya ya...
> Seperti biasa akan lebih jelas kalau bapak ibu bisa cek dulu lampiran
> saya...
>
> Salam hormat buat bapak ibu
>
> Wassalam
> Seismica
>
>

Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:43 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"hendrik karnadi" hendrikkarnadi

Kalau mau direkalkulasi ulang secara otomatis setiap ada perubahan boleh ditambahkan Application.Volatile pada bagian awal code. Namun harus berhati-hati agar tidak tejadi "calculation lag", seperti catatan di bawah ini: 

This example marks the user-defined function "My_Func" as volatile. The function will be recalculated when any cell in any workbook in the application window changes value. Recalculation of the function is not restricted to changes or calculation cycles in the worksheet for which this function applies. Therefore, use it moderately to avoid calculation lag.
Function My_Func()
Application.Volatile
'
' Remainder of the function
'
End FunctionSalam,HK

On Monday, July 31, 2017, 9:47:46 AM GMT+7, hendrik karnadi <hendrikkarnadi@yahoo.com> wrote:

Jangan lupa aktifkan Macronya.....

----- Forwarded Message -----From: hendrik karnadi hendrikkarnadi@yahoo.com [belajar-excel] <belajar-excel@yahoogroups.com>To: Zerlinda Seismica seismica@yahoo.com [belajar-excel] <belajar-excel@yahoogroups.com>Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017, 9:46:51 AM GMT+7Subject: Re: [belajar-excel] Look Up Nilai Yang Tidak Unik
 

Sambil menunggu jawaban Mr. Kid, sila coba UDF nya pak Anton (salah satu bang Momod juga).
Copas UDF di bawah ini pada module di VBE Sheet,
Function vlookupgab(x As Range, y As Range, z As String) As String
'anton suryadi 1/Des/2010 
For Each a In x
    If a.Text = y.Text Then
    b = b & a.Offset(, 1).Text & z
    End If
Next
vlookupgab = Left(b, Len(b) - 1) End Function

dan ketik UDF di bawah ini,

=vlookupgab($A$3:$A$9,D3,",") pada Range E3, kemudian copy ke bawah.

Salam,HK

On Sunday, July 30, 2017, 9:38:56 PM GMT+7, Zerlinda Seismica seismica@yahoo.com [belajar-excel] <belajar-excel@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Assalamualaikum wrwb
Bapak dan ibu wabil khusus Mr Kid hehe...menurut asumsi saya fungsi look hanya untuk cari data yang unik.Sementara cari data yang ga unik apa ada sintaknya ya...Seperti biasa akan lebih jelas kalau bapak ibu bisa cek dulu lampiran saya...
Salam hormat buat bapak ibu
Wassalam
Seismica

Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:18 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"amsar sar" moch_amsar

Assalamu'alaikum...salam hormat untuk Mr.Kid dan semua bapak/ibu yang selalu setia membagi ilmunya..
saya ada permasalahan tentang menentukan interval dengan menggunakan z skor, pertanyaannya terlampir di file lampiran diwabah ini.atas bantuannya saya ucapkan terimakasih..

Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:21 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"nangagus"

Dear Abduh,

Di KOmpie Aku (Office 2010) saya buka di sheet2 di A1 saya ketik
=myFunc(), malah tidak dapat mengaktifkan Sheet1 (sheet1 tidak tampak
aktif, karena langsung menjalankan perintah kedua)

Langsung muncul MSgBox.

coba di buka di lain KOmpie!

On 7/29/2017 2:41 PM, abduhsuryadi@gmail.com [belajar-excel] wrote:
> Function myFunc()
>
> sheets("sheet1").activate
> msgbox "hai"
>
> End Function

Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:31 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Samsudin Sam"

Dear Reza,
Sambil menunggu dari rekan yang lainnya, berikut contoh yang dapat diberikan semoga sesuai keinginan

Samsudin


Pada Jumat, 28 Juli 2017 11:40, "Reza Suhartono reza.fabregas@yahoo.co.id [belajar-excel]" <belajar-excel@yahoogroups.com> menulis:


  hai odong,terima kasih untuk sarannya.
Dear All,
Inti dari yang saya tanyakan adalah rumus seperti apa ya yang bisa saya pakai bila saya ingin mencari nilai MTTR & MTBF dan dapat menghasilkan berapa persen PA unit sesuai dengan data repair report yang saya lampirkan.

Pada Kamis, 27 Juli 2017 19:42, "odong nando odongnando@yahoo.com [belajar-excel]" <belajar-excel@yahoogroups.com> menulis:


 

hai reza,
coba di buatkan dummy nya dalam bentuk excel, bagaimana cara ngitungnya dan apa hasil yang di inginkan...pasti nanti banyak yang komen deh... br,

odong nando

Dari: "Reza Suhartono reza.fabregas@yahoo.co.id [belajar-excel]" <belajar-excel@yahoogroups.com>
Kepada: belajar-excel@yahoogroups.com
Cc: "reza.suhartono1311@gmail.com" <reza.suhartono1311@gmail.com>
Dikirim: Kamis, 27 Juli 2017 17:13
Judul: [belajar-excel] Menghitung MTTR & MTBF

  Selamat Siang,
Mau tanya seperti apa ya rumus untuk menghitung MTTR & MTBF unit dump truck agar bisa sinkron ke Physical Availibility (PA). Ditunggu feedbacknya.

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Sun Jul 30, 2017 11:17 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Reza Suhartono" reza.fabregas

Dear Bang Samsudin,
Terima kasih untuk contohnya namun apakah ada rumusnya bang untuk hitung MTTR sendiri trus MTBF sendiri setelah itu di compare menjadi nilai PA & MA?Terima kasih atas bantuannya bang.

Pada Senin, 31 Juli 2017 12:32, "Samsudin Sam samsudinortega@yahoo.com [belajar-excel]" <belajar-excel@yahoogroups.com> menulis:


  Dear Reza,
Sambil menunggu dari rekan yang lainnya, berikut contoh yang dapat diberikan semoga sesuai keinginan

Samsudin


Pada Jumat, 28 Juli 2017 11:40, "Reza Suhartono reza.fabregas@yahoo.co.id [belajar-excel]" <belajar-excel@yahoogroups.com> menulis:


  hai odong,terima kasih untuk sarannya.
Dear All,
Inti dari yang saya tanyakan adalah rumus seperti apa ya yang bisa saya pakai bila saya ingin mencari nilai MTTR & MTBF dan dapat menghasilkan berapa persen PA unit sesuai dengan data repair report yang saya lampirkan.

Pada Kamis, 27 Juli 2017 19:42, "odong nando odongnando@yahoo.com [belajar-excel]" <belajar-excel@yahoogroups.com> menulis:


 

hai reza,
coba di buatkan dummy nya dalam bentuk excel, bagaimana cara ngitungnya dan apa hasil yang di inginkan...pasti nanti banyak yang komen deh... br,

odong nando

Dari: "Reza Suhartono reza.fabregas@yahoo.co.id [belajar-excel]" <belajar-excel@yahoogroups.com>
Kepada: belajar-excel@yahoogroups.com
Cc: "reza.suhartono1311@gmail.com" <reza.suhartono1311@gmail.com>
Dikirim: Kamis, 27 Juli 2017 17:13
Judul: [belajar-excel] Menghitung MTTR & MTBF

  Selamat Siang,
Mau tanya seperti apa ya rumus untuk menghitung MTTR & MTBF unit dump truck agar bisa sinkron ke Physical Availibility (PA). Ditunggu feedbacknya.

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Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:11 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"odong nando"

hai seismica,
terlampir ya, dengan kolom bantu, bisa menampung ribuan deret  angka yang anda mau kelompokkan... br,

odong nando

Dari: "Zerlinda Seismica seismica@yahoo.com [belajar-excel]" <belajar-excel@yahoogroups.com>
Kepada: belajar-excel@yahoogroups.com
Dikirim: Minggu, 30 Juli 2017 21:38
Judul: [belajar-excel] Look Up Nilai Yang Tidak Unik [1 Attachment]

  Assalamualaikum wrwb
Bapak dan ibu wabil khusus Mr Kid hehe...menurut asumsi saya fungsi look hanya untuk cari data yang unik.Sementara cari data yang ga unik apa ada sintaknya ya...Seperti biasa akan lebih jelas kalau bapak ibu bisa cek dulu lampiran saya...
Salam hormat buat bapak ibu
Wassalam
Seismica

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Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:20 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"odong nando"

maaf ya lampiran ketinggalan... br,

odong nando

Dari: "odong nando odongnando@yahoo.com [belajar-excel]" <belajar-excel@yahoogroups.com>
Kepada: "belajar-excel@yahoogroups.com" <belajar-excel@yahoogroups.com>
Dikirim: Senin, 31 Juli 2017 12:11
Judul: Bls: [belajar-excel] Look Up Nilai Yang Tidak Unik

  hai seismica,
terlampir ya, dengan kolom bantu, bisa menampung ribuan deret  angka yang anda mau kelompokkan... br,

odong nando

Dari: "Zerlinda Seismica seismica@yahoo.com [belajar-excel]" <belajar-excel@yahoogroups.com>
Kepada: belajar-excel@yahoogroups.com
Dikirim: Minggu, 30 Juli 2017 21:38
Judul: [belajar-excel] Look Up Nilai Yang Tidak Unik [1 Attachment]

  Assalamualaikum wrwb
Bapak dan ibu wabil khusus Mr Kid hehe...menurut asumsi saya fungsi look hanya untuk cari data yang unik.Sementara cari data yang ga unik apa ada sintaknya ya...Seperti biasa akan lebih jelas kalau bapak ibu bisa cek dulu lampiran saya...
Salam hormat buat bapak ibu
Wassalam
Seismica

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Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:49 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Zerlinda Seismica" seismica

alhamdulillah....done...makasih untuk semua solusi yang diberikan...sampe mau loncat saking senengny....semoga jadi jalan kemudahan atas kesulitan bapak ibu...aamiin
SalamSeismica

Pada Senin, 31 Juli 2017 14:20, "odong nando odongnando@yahoo.com [belajar-excel]" <belajar-excel@yahoogroups.com> menulis:


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maaf ya lampiran ketinggalan... br,

odong nando

Dari: "odong nando odongnando@yahoo.com [belajar-excel]" <belajar-excel@yahoogroups.com>
Kepada: "belajar-excel@yahoogroups.com" <belajar-excel@yahoogroups.com>
Dikirim: Senin, 31 Juli 2017 12:11
Judul: Bls: [belajar-excel] Look Up Nilai Yang Tidak Unik

  hai seismica,
terlampir ya, dengan kolom bantu, bisa menampung ribuan deret  angka yang anda mau kelompokkan... br,

odong nando

Dari: "Zerlinda Seismica seismica@yahoo.com [belajar-excel]" <belajar-excel@yahoogroups.com>
Kepada: belajar-excel@yahoogroups.com
Dikirim: Minggu, 30 Juli 2017 21:38
Judul: [belajar-excel] Look Up Nilai Yang Tidak Unik [1 Attachment]

  Assalamualaikum wrwb
Bapak dan ibu wabil khusus Mr Kid hehe...menurut asumsi saya fungsi look hanya untuk cari data yang unik.Sementara cari data yang ga unik apa ada sintaknya ya...Seperti biasa akan lebih jelas kalau bapak ibu bisa cek dulu lampiran saya...
Salam hormat buat bapak ibu
Wassalam
Seismica

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Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:33 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"San San" santi.rosaindah

Dear all,

Mohon bantuannya bagaimana cara cepatnya untuk membuat data dalam sheet 2.
Karena data sheet 1 bisa 200 row lebih, untuk kemudian di print seperti
dalam format sheet 2.

Terima kasih banyak atas bantuannya nya..

Regards,
Santi

Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:10 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"hendrik karnadi" hendrikkarnadi

Hai Santi,
Sebenarnya sdh saya berikan "pancingnya"...cuma karena anda masih kesulitan untuk memancing terpaksa saya ikut mancing.
File terlampir.
Salam,HK
Catatan : Jangan lupa aktifkan macronya
On Monday, July 31, 2017, 12:33:23 PM GMT+7, San San santi.rosaindah@gmail.com [belajar-excel] <belajar-excel@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Dear all, 
Mohon bantuannya bagaimana cara cepatnya untuk membuat data dalam sheet 2. Karena data sheet 1 bisa 200 row lebih, untuk kemudian di print seperti dalam format sheet 2.
Terima kasih banyak atas bantuannya nya.. 
Regards, Santi

Sun Jul 30, 2017 10:47 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Edy Rakhmat" pt_tpj

Dear Para Suhu Belajar Excell,
Apakah ada yang pernah buat Simulasi Struktur & Skala upah berdasarkan PP Permen No.1.2017 dengan menggunakan MS.Excell?. Kalau ada bisa di share dong disini atau via japri. Atau kalau ada yang Master Excell bisa bantu saya dengan ada imbalan tentunya karena Master Excell sudah mau meluangkan waktu untuk pembuatannya. Atas bantuannya saya ucapkan terima kasih
RegardsEdy

Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:17 pm (PDT) . Posted by:


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Kategory OOT atas pertimbangan khusus, misalnya demi kepentingan yg
mendesak dan penting, atau demi "kemanusiaan&quot;, tidak didelete.
Jika tidak memenuhi kriteria akan didelete dengan atau tanpa pemberi-
tahuan kpd member.

Kategory VOOT, posting akan langsung didelete, pengirim akan diberi
teguran.

VOOT kedua dari pengirim yg sama akan menyebabkan member ybs didisabled
sementara kemampuan postingnya.

Kelanjutan dari suatu diskusi tanya-jawab, masih layak diposted ke milis,
misal hanya ucapan terima kasih atau pun sejenis konfirmasi bahwa suatu
solusi sudah diterima dan dapat dipakai dsb, ini dapat golongkan sbg OOT
yg masih layak tayang.

Kelanjutan pembicaraan yg sudah tidak relevan lagi bagi member lain,
dapat anda teruskan melalui 'japri&#39; (jalur pribadi).

Kritik dan saran kepada milis 'belajar-excel'
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Kritik dan saran diluar masalah excel demi perbaikan milis ini dapat
disampaikan ke owner / moderators

Hak dan wewenang Moderators
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Moderators berhak setelah mempertimbangkan hal-hal diatas untuk
memberikan kartu kuning atau langsung kartu merah dan/atau
mem-banned members yang melakukan pelanggaran rules milis ini.

Himbauan dari milis 'belajar excel' kpd members
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Diharapkan para members terus meningkatkan pengetahuannya mengenai
kelaziman cara bermilis & ber-net-ria secara umum.

Perlu selalu disadari bahwa di dunia internet, sama dengan dunia kita
sehari hari.
Jika di dunia nyata kita mengenal "etika / ettiquettes", maka di net
ada semacam etika umum yg lazim disebut "nettiquette&quot;.

Kalau anda sering tidak mengindahkan "nettiquettes&quot;, tidak akan polisi
yg menangkap anda; tetapi lama-lama anda akan dijauhi banyak rekan,
karena mereka tentu merasa tidak nyaman ber-korespondensi dengan anda.

Sebagai Members of "milis belajar-excel" dan sebagai 'netter sejati',
anda tentu tidak suka kalau harus dicap sebagai "tidak nettis" yang
artinya setara dgn "tidak etis".

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revisi 2: tgl 02Des2013 / dwint
# penambahan point B.6.

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